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about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 11:21 am

I got problem to seal my gearbox.
Have change the 3 oilseals, 1. the big oring around the "crown". 2. the big seal around the driveshaft, 3. and the output shafts o-ring close the bearing. But the gearbox still leaking.
Has anyone had the same problem and found a solution? please tell me...
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby Miles » Sun May 17, 2015 1:16 pm

The problem may be scored drive shafts.
I fitted easi sleeves to mine solved the problem.

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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby JohnC » Sun May 17, 2015 2:45 pm

Hi there,

Can you identify exactly where you are seeing it drip or leaking from ?

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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 2:47 pm

JohnC wrote:Hi there,

Can you identify exactly where you are seeing it drip or leaking from ?

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Thanks for help... The leakage comes from the output shaft...
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 2:50 pm

Miles wrote:The problem may be scored drive shafts.
I fitted easi sleeves to mine solved the problem.

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Sorry my bad english, please can You explain closer?
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby JohnC » Sun May 17, 2015 2:52 pm

R1313 wrote:Thanks for help... The leakage comes from the output shaft...

One side or both sides ?
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby Miles » Sun May 17, 2015 3:08 pm

Speedi sleeves
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby Miles » Sun May 17, 2015 3:14 pm

Basically you slide these on to the end of your drive shafts, which covers any wear, at the point where they enter gearbox.
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby mettersl » Sun May 17, 2015 4:13 pm

Before you do that, did you fill the roll pins with a suitable oil resistant sealant ?
My 610 was leaking from the drive shaft on one side, the roll pins were pushed out, the holes filled with instant gasket (silicon sealer) and the pins put back in and covered over, leaks solved.
Worth a go before you start looking at more complex solutions.
I'm sure someone on here can recommend the best sealer.
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 4:59 pm

mettersl wrote:Before you do that, did you fill the roll pins with a suitable oil resistant gasket material?
My 610 was leaking from the drive shaft on one side, the roll pins were pushed out, the holed hpfilled with instant gasket and the pins put back in and covered over, leaks solved.
Worth a go before you start looking at more complex solutions.
I'm sure someone on here can recommend the best sealer.


Yes, the gasket made for the UN1 have be mounted 3mm farther out, to avoid the track the old gasket created.
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 5:01 pm

JohnC wrote:
R1313 wrote:Thanks for help... The leakage comes from the output shaft...

One side or both sides ?


Most from the left side (side with the adjustment crown.)
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 5:06 pm

Miles wrote:Basically you slide these on to the end of your drive shafts, which covers any wear, at the point where they enter gearbox.


Thanks, very good ide, but I have mounted the gasket 3mm farther out, to avoid the track the old gasket created.
Do I need a bigger gasket with the "Speedi sleeves"?
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby clee » Sun May 17, 2015 5:18 pm

Have you sealed the roll pins that retain the shaft? If the seal is 3mm further out it will be covering the pin so I cant see how you could ??
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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby JohnC » Sun May 17, 2015 5:57 pm

R1313 wrote:Yes, the gasket made for the UN1 have be mounted 3mm farther out, to avoid the track the old gasket created.

I entirely agree with "Clee" (post above) on this. However, I am assuming when you say "gasket", you are referring to the "Oil seal".
With this in mind, I have been looking through the manual and have come across the picture posted below which shows the Roll Pins which "mettersl" was referring to.
Also highlighted is the sealer that is required to stop oil travelling along the spline and out through the roll pins.
Unless there is a lot of wear on the gasket bearing surfaces of the drive shaft ends, the gaskets should be fitted in the same position as the old ones were. Then you will be able to see the holes that the roll pins have to be fitted into ..... then sealed.
If, however, there is heavy wear on the seal bearing surfaces, then the sleeves that "Miles" posted should be considered.

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Re: about leaking gerbox

Postby R1313 » Sun May 17, 2015 6:17 pm

clee wrote:Have you sealed the roll pins that retain the shaft? If the seal is 3mm further out it will be covering the pin so I cant see how you could ??


I can se a half hole of the roll pins, but of course the seals are not exactly like the original... so maybe the lips hit the old track?
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