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Postby jon_viola » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:44 pm

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Just wondering whether you guys keep to the Renault settings for your tracking? Even on a car that is lowered or on different wheels? Just had mine done and the rears look like they are sitting on the inside edge too much....

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Postby mettersl » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:54 pm

There is no camber adjustment possible on the rear (and limited on the front) so when you lower the car the rear wheel camber goes out.
There are two solutions.
1) Don't lower it, the centre of gravity is quite low enough anyway and Renault knew what they were doing on this.....OR
2) Get the upper wishbones modified to allow adjustment. DG talked about doing this, but I have never seen anyone offer these parts modified.

When you lower the car, you go away from the Renault settings and will put up tyre wear, you may well find its doesn't handle any better either. Its like over sized wheels- they don't improve handling as they put up unsprung weight....Spyders have more adjustment so these rules are different for them.

Lets see what other opinions there are here.... :wink:
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Postby jon_viola » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:59 pm

Have run out of height with springs at rear so am stuck to a certain extent. The rear lower wishbones are adjustable with shims. The fronts seem fine as is.
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Postby andyh877 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:02 pm

mettersl wrote:There is no camber adjustment possible on the rear (and limited on the front) so when you lower the car the rear wheel camber goes out.
There are two solutions.
1) Don't lower it, the centre of gravity is quite low enough anyway and Renault knew what they were doing on this.....OR
2) Get the upper wishbones modified to allow adjustment. DG talked about doing this, but I have never seen anyone offer these parts modified.

When you lower the car, you go away from the Renault settings and will put up tyre wear, you may well find its doesn't handle any better either. Its like over sized wheels- they don't improve handling as they put up unsprung weight....Spyders have more adjustment so these rules are different for them.


Lets see what other opinions there are here.... :wink:


SPIDERS do have suspension adjustment but it's a waste of time on a road car unless you change the original shocks, adding camber will just wear the tyres out on the inside quicker, best thing to do to imprve the car.... lighten the unsprung weight that will give the car better handling and braking performance, don't stick larger, heavier wheels on it and then lower it as much as poss... just a waste and you'll probably make the car much worse handling wise for road use
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Postby mettersl » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:00 am

Hi Jon,
The shims adjust the rear toe in, not the camber, sorry....to adjust that as well you need to change the top wishbone length.
Even the shims have some effect on other things, meaning that if you change the ride height, you are in the wrong adjustment zone when you play with the shims, so you can't get tracking and camber right.
The shims go under one end of the lower wishbone, that won't give the full range of adjustment needed to get all the angles right at once.
If you have a search on the early days of the forum, you'll find plenty of posts about this topic.
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