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Postby clee » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:04 pm

see here ....It don't work 'cause it got too many bolts ....
http://www.renaultalpineownersclub.com/ ... c&start=15
Need to turn it into a Quaife .....http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qdf5m-1


+ also going to 4 planet gears UN5 styley .
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Postby mav » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:19 pm

Quaife unit still available spoke to one of there guy's at autosport show this year can't remember what the price was but it was around 1k.
http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/search/res ... C348%2C361
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Postby clee » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:40 pm

Yep ,about 800 + vat .
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Postby Alpineandy » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:04 pm

As I understand it these are too agressive for the road but very good for the track ; http://www.davemacprops.com/dmpgripperapplications.html
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Postby si21 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:25 pm

Alpineandy wrote:As I understand it these are too agressive for the road but very good for the track ; http://www.davemacprops.com/dmpgripperapplications.html


If you read their blurb it it says progressive and adjustable to suit the driver?

Agressive .....Just weld it up :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was really looking to be able to drop the gearing as suggested by Mr Faulks but it would seem that that is not possible.

Samller wheels is not an option as I went for larger rims to make tyre purchase more affordable.

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Change the diff

Postby Tony Smith » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:23 pm

Cheapest way to lower the gearing is to get a nice low ratio (numerically higher) diff. Surely the Master van was fitted with a lower diff than the cars. I want one two :lol:
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Postby mettersl » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:45 pm

The master diff only fits the un5 box ( bigger near the diff)., they are sought after by the Australian buggy brigade as they can be toughened up to take lots of torque with an input shaft upgrade and have the 4 planet diff ( like the 610 box).
They do turn up on eBay but I question if they would fit a GTA.
I have a un1 and un5 in the shed so will get the tape measure out at the weekend.
One thing they ain't is light.
The un1 has a 25t diff so I might be persuaded into a swap if that would help.I haven't checked ratio's but remember it being shorter than the GTA.
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Postby si21 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:28 pm

mettersl wrote:The master diff only fits the un5 box ( bigger near the diff)., they are sought after by the Australian buggy brigade as they can be toughened up to take lots of torque with an input shaft upgrade and have the 4 planet diff ( like the 610 box).
They do turn up on eBay but I question if they would fit a GTA.
I have a un1 and un5 in the shed so will get the tape measure out at the weekend.
One thing they ain't is light.
The un1 has a 25t diff so I might be persuaded into a swap if that would help.I haven't checked ratio's but remember it being shorter than the GTA.
Must read clees book
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If I remember correctly the gear ratios are the same as a 21 Turbo box except for may be 4th and 5th or just 5th which is a taller gear.

I am trying to get what car/box does what in the hope I might be able to build a special on a budget. :?:

The 21T is the same as an Atmo box so is a GTA turbo the same as a 25 T it seems to stand to reason?

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Postby mettersl » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:35 pm

Si,
I have a chart somewhere at home, let me have a look and I'll post up some answers (hopefully)

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Postby si21 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:48 pm

That would be great Lee, thinking about it I think the 25 has the same gear ratios as the GTA turbo but like MF was saying a lower differential.

So ti would be the lower diff ratio of the 25 box that I require :roll: rarer than Poo les Rocking Orse :roll:

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Postby clee » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:55 pm

Errrr ...Lee is saying he has the 25 UN1 box so just swap out the final drives :?
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Postby si21 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:39 pm

clee wrote:Errrr ...Lee is saying he has the 25 UN1 box so just swap out the final drives :?
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http://www.renaultalpineownersclub.com/ ... MRBVUN.pdf


Doh totally missed that altogether thanks Clee

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Postby David Gentleman » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:18 pm

clee wrote:3l lump is not superior in any way apart from the greater capacity ..end of :P


and the...

...bigger valves and better inlet ports, hydraulic Lifters, better flowing inlet manifold and better original cam profile with higher lift.
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Postby BIG_MVS » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:11 pm

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Kin Hell! He is alive :shock:

Knows his onions too does Dave, I tried to tell Clee mr G but he wouldn't have none of it :lol: :lol:

To be fair though Clee has now taken a 610 lump to bits so has to know if them bits are better or not?
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Postby clee » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:41 pm

...he's wrong on almost all counts ...but that's what theory and boook learning results in ....welcome back Dave :P
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