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Gearbox upgrade

Postby Tony Smith » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:41 pm

My gearbox doesn't seem to like 300 plus ft/lbs of torque and has started making horrible noises. I've mailed GTO engineering for some prices for one of the super strong upgrades but has anybody else got any ideas - I've got a feeling the V8 Esprits ran a stronger 'box. Any other ideas or suggestions welcomed. I have a spare 'box but this one was only rebuilt 2k miles ago and I'm still running low boost so I might as well bite the bullet and do it properly this time.
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Postby MFaulks » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:25 pm

The box is strong the weakness are well known (5th etc), and treated with due care won't give any problem at your power level. The critical aspect is the bearing setup, and the production build appears variable at best, and some of the gear casings were not align bored very well. With a good casing, and new bearings and correctly set clearance on the two rear bearings you will not have any issue. As I have mentioned on here before, if you look at how the 5th gear oil feed has been gun drilled, it will almost certainly be offset badly to one side and wandering all over the place down the drilling - just plain crud QA and machining care. Moral - find a good one, probably all that was done for the Esprit - component inspection and selection.

There are plenty of mud hoggers putting far greater loads through this box in off-road racing, and they don't change the bearing type. I thought this was an issue but after a lot of correspondence with the Aussie fanatics they demonstrated that the bearing in the 610 is actually more prone to failure than the GTA. They also us the UN5 and this has the same rear bearing as the later box. They have some tricks in setup and rebuild where they do modifications, and they also offer gear ratios of your own choice, but the simplest tip - don't use the box for heavy engine braking when racing.
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Engine braking.

Postby Tony Smith » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:39 pm

Thats probably whats killed it then - Macon 2 years back I hammered it really hard and the best way round those lanes was using 3rd gear and just coming off the power until you could see round the next bend the getting it back on boost, I'll go for a standard rebuild then with new bearings thru out.
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Postby simonsays74 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:27 pm

Send her over to Belfast Tony! I have a few small mods for the UN1.

I also have a friend who owns IFS Transport.......... shipping no problem.


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