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Your driving licence could have expired !!!

Postby simontaylor » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:34 pm

Just got this in an email.......


Thousands of motorists are at risk of being fined up to £1,000 because they are unwittingly driving without a valid licence..

They risk prosecution after failing to spot the extremely small print on their photo card licence which says it automatically expires after 10 years and has to be renewed - even though drivers are licensed to drive until the age of 70. The fiasco has come to light a decade after the first batch of photo licences was issued in July 1998, just as they start to expire.

Motoring organisations blamed the Government for the fiasco and said 'most' drivers believed their licences were for life.
A mock-up driving licence from 1998 when the photo cards were launched shows the imminent expiry date as item '4b' They said officials had failed to publicise sufficiently the fact that new-style licences - unlike the old paper ones - expire after a set
period and have to be renewed.

To rub salt into wounds, drivers will have to pay £17.50 to renew their card - a charge which critics have condemned as a 'stealth tax' and which will earn the Treasury an estimated £437million over 25 years. Official DVLA figures reveal that while 16,136 expired this summer, so far only 11,566 drivers have renewed, leaving 4,570 outstanding. With another 300,000 photo card licences due to expire over the coming year, experts fear the number of invalid licences will soar, putting thousands more drivers in breach of the law and at risk of a fine.

At the heart of the confusion is the small print on the tiny credit-card-size photo licence, which is used in conjunction with the paper version. 4b: The small print on the back of the driving licence is easy to miss. Just below the driver name on the front of the photo card licence is a series of dates and details - each one numbered Number 4b features a date in tiny writing, but no explicit explanation as to what it means. The date's significance is only explained if the driver turns over the card and reads the key on the back which states that '4b' means 'licence valid to'.

Even more confusingly, an adjacent table on the rear of the card sets out how long the driver is registered to hold a licence - that is until his or her 70th birthday. A total of 25million new-style licences have been issued but - motoring experts say - drivers were never sufficiently warned they would expire after 10 years.

The DVLA said failure to update the photo card after 10 years fell into the same category as failing to inform them of a change of address.

CHECK YOUR LICENCE EXPIRY DATE!!!

Seems "reasonable". What use is photo ID unless the photo is reasonably 'current'.

Mine only has 7 months to run.
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Postby mellowyellowa610 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:36 pm

What are the rules for photo driving licenses? I don't have one, have never had one and don't really want one, especially if it's just another excuse to rob us of more money!
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:18 pm

I don't think I'll bother getting a photocard licence! Just had a look at Polly's and sure enough, hers expires a year from now, a mere 8 years after she applied for the licence.

I'd agree wholeheartedly that the way it's set out is daft, easily confusing and just the sort of crap I've come to expect from the DVLA.

Edit: I also don't want to surrender my old paper licence in case their habit of "dropping" some of the qualifications on it still applies - like all those HGV drivers who had to retake their tests.
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Postby clee » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:23 pm

Still got my old pink one ,it expires 2035 .........It has got the wrong address on it though so they can get their dosh out of me that way....but hey Feck-em.... facists
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They can fine you Clee

Postby si21 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:47 pm

clee wrote:Still got my old pink one ,it expires 2035 .........It has got the wrong address on it though so they can get their dosh out of me that way....but hey Feck-em.... facists


£1000.00 mate :shock:

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Postby clee » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:00 pm

Yeh I should really ...it's just the principle :lol:

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Re: Your driving licence could have expired !!!

Postby JohnC » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:13 pm

To rub salt into wounds, drivers will have to pay £17.50 to renew their card -

You`re lucky.....I`ve just had to shell out £80 for our two renewals for the credit card style driving licence, and I hear that it is now a problem to hire a car abroard as it does not have our adderss on it :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby simontaylor » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:37 pm

My photo card licence has the address on the front, section 8.
Maybe things are different in Jersey?

I am advised that the reason they only have a 10 year life is because the phote could become out of date, and having photo documents with out a life is plain silly.

It's a bit of a nanny state situation, but they are supposed to be more secure than the old papaer one. Hey, it's just 'progress'.
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Postby JohnC » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:34 pm

My photo card licence has the address on the front, section 8.
Maybe things are different in Jersey?


Section 8 on mine just says "Jersey, Channel Islands" but on the back telling you what each section represents, it says "Permanent Residience" .......Brilliant....to save money and get the best value for £40, they leave out the detail :evil: :evil: :evil:
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