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Postby clee » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:46 pm

peterg wrote:I have the heads back on and torqued up. The question is do I have an engine with even or offset crank pins????


That's on my list of :? as well :wink:
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:49 pm

peterg wrote:I have the heads back on and torqued up. The question is do I have an engine with even or offset crank pins????


To save confusion of an oddfire being even crankpins and an evenfire having offset crankpins, its the one that requires the engine to be rotated 120 degrees for timing instead of 150... :wink: (so its offset :wink: )
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Postby clee » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:13 pm

I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:59 pm

clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


lol, no, most people use re-use the timing marks when they should not, so most are timed up nearly correctly, but not quite.... :lol:
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Postby clee » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:17 pm

Don't shatter my illusions :lol: :lol:
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Postby peterg » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:31 pm

Its back in the car!!!!! :D Unfortunately one of the engine mounts is fooked...£38+VAT....ouch :cry: They are giving me my usual frequent visitor discount of 10% though. :D
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Postby clee » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:53 pm

One of mine is chuffed as well :P God knows how long it had been bouncing adrift :evil: Nearly there then Peter 8) 8)
I've got mine on a stand at a toolmaker mates near my mans garage .I had a word with him and he's happy for me to do all the numpty/donkey work and I'll leave the inspection/rebuild to him .
Got a big order going to Simon autos ,he does supply piston rings only for the turbo .All gaskets ,oil seals ,shells and rings about £320 delivered .I'm hoping that's all I need :roll:
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Postby peterg » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:39 pm

Yes, he just didnt have any when I needed them. Will be taking my time putting it back together...have a lot on at the minute. Hopefully in the next 3 weeks!
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Postby clee » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:43 pm

I'm aiming for a spring end :lol: :lol: ' Why's Daddy always in his shed ' :cry: :cry:
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Postby simontaylor » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:50 pm

clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


experience tells me.... whenever you take a timing belt off (or a chain, but not done one yet) you should mark the belt and pulleys with tip-ex. Then transfer the marks to the new belt and it's easy from there on.... one final check and it'll all be as good as new.
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Postby David Gentleman » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:55 pm

simontaylor wrote:
clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


experience tells me.... whenever you take a timing belt off (or a chain, but not done one yet) you should mark the belt and pulleys with tip-ex. Then transfer the marks to the new belt and it's easy from there on.... one final check and it'll all be as good as new.


...but thats hoping they were correct in the first place.. :wink:
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Postby clee » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:04 pm

David Gentleman wrote:
simontaylor wrote:
clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


experience tells me.... whenever you take a timing belt off (or a chain, but not done one yet) you should mark the belt and pulleys with tip-ex. Then transfer the marks to the new belt and it's easy from there on.... one final check and it'll all be as good as new.


...but thats hoping they were correct in the first place.. :wink:


:wink: :wink: Say no more ................................
I'm pretty sure it was all set up correctly ,Simon ,the Jag man's used to doing Vs ...................
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Postby David Gentleman » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:07 pm

clee wrote:
David Gentleman wrote:
simontaylor wrote:
clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


experience tells me.... whenever you take a timing belt off (or a chain, but not done one yet) you should mark the belt and pulleys with tip-ex. Then transfer the marks to the new belt and it's easy from there on.... one final check and it'll all be as good as new.


...but thats hoping they were correct in the first place.. :wink:


:wink: :wink: Say no more ................................


Havent you figured it out yet?.....Thats why the manual says ignore any marks on the chains (cos they're not Renault ones, they were probably put on by the numpty that had a go at timing it up before... :lol: )
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Postby simontaylor » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:13 pm

David Gentleman wrote:
simontaylor wrote:
clee wrote:I wonder if the guy that did my headgaskets knew this :lol: I didn't give him any tech spec and very much doubt he surfed it up :shock:
Maybe professionals know instinctively, guestimate very well or take it with a pinch of salt :lol:


experience tells me.... whenever you take a timing belt off (or a chain, but not done one yet) you should mark the belt and pulleys with tip-ex. Then transfer the marks to the new belt and it's easy from there on.... one final check and it'll all be as good as new.


...but thats hoping they were correct in the first place.. :wink:


If it was wrong to start with, then my method will not make it any worse afterwards and the car should run as good as before, but as I mentioned,... once you have made your own marks, turn it a couple of times and make sure you are happy with what you are starting off with.
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Postby clee » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:16 pm

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