T2 BHP

I did own a nice yellow spider a couple of years ago, but i wont comment futher

give me your worst..... i can take it....

.. just remember..... I have a tame....road spiader..... and 2 not so tame spider cup cars

I hope you didn't ruin the spider by bolting lots of chomy bling sh!t to it and a nasty steering wheel....

Andy i wouldnt even dream of entering a slagging off reply on here, the topic was about T2 BHP and increasing bhp safely with additions of water injection ect, there are other forums not car/Renault related for that It seems like most of the guys on here are really helpful when it comes to advice, what forums are all about.

I best register another user name on here to save any confusion with GT5 (GTA V6 Turbo) the younger Steve in the family

Saying that, you didnt reply to how did the Alpine V6's do?

Ya gotta watch these guys ,never know who you're talking to

The old Steve is steveatyork now

Andy i wouldnt even dream of entering a slagging off reply on here, the topic was about T2 BHP and increasing bhp safely with additions of water injection ect, there are other forums not car/Renault related for that It seems like most of the guys on here are really helpful when it comes to advice, what forums are all about.

I best register another user name on here to save any confusion with GT5 (GTA V6 Turbo) the younger Steve in the family

Saying that, you didnt reply to how did the Alpine V6's do?

I'm glad you wouldn't dream of slagging off the spider, why not all constructive critiscism is worth reading. and there's many a man on this forum who loves a good argument ..... so where are the compliments for the spider for starters

I dunno how th alpine V6s did....but i know one got pranged in the chicane though and chomped some straw bales..... a calberson 310 in nice but not so nice condition now

Ya gotta watch these guys ,never know who you're talking to

Hope his mum/wife isnt called Stevie......

Ya gotta watch these guys ,never know who you're talking to

Hope his mum/wife isnt called Stevie......

The wife did drive the Spider but isnt called Stevie the only car i dare trust her driving (not to much power for her) It handled and stoped well but oh so slow Maybe a age thing but i didnt like the attention i used to get, more so when it got a lot of comments about it been a girls car,
A nice car for the summer months though, and a looker if your in your 20's but a mans car i think not (not that im sexist) and not saying your a girl Andy honest

Funny thing is with cars and age of drivers, i reckon most GTA drivers will be in there 40's think Steve (GT5) might have been happier with the RX7 and me with the GTA (Which i like!!!!!!)

I reckon the Spider is just a little/lot under powered to be a hairy chested sports car maybe not a hairdressers car like the TR7 was known in the early 80's but close,

S--- what was i saying about the post subject been the T2's power or lack of it

right , i'm back off holiday . The only reason a turbo two won't make as much power easily as a gt turbo does is the fuel system ( k-jet tronic ) , and the intercooler position ( shit ) . You could ruin the cars originality and fit a gt turbo carb and change/move the intercooler position etc and it will make 200 bhp on 15 psi of boost . After this you need steel liners and forged pistons for engine saftey reasons as the standard liners start cracking etc .

you only need one jet into the intercooler as this will quench the charge perfectly , 4 jets won't make any difference just add problems and expense . Use the basic erl kit at aprrox £350 because it's the best and if running high boost your engines life will depend on it . The t2 charge temp hits 80 degress after about 8 seconds of full throttle on 15 psi robbing about 40 bhp at the same time , i know because i've measured it !!!!

So water injection is worth having? was the above on a T2? just curious with the one injector cooling all four inlets, sounds good though? if charge temps are controlled to some degree with water injection/charge cooling wont that allow a bit higher boost fueling permiting?
Still puzled though how does the GTT get away with running higher boost re; steel liners and forged pistons?

Hope you had a good holiday could do with one myself

one water injection nozzle is enough because the water vapourises into the airstream in the intercooler . It will cool the temp of the air in the t2 intercooler and it won't cool one cylinder more than the others because the valves are not all open at the same time as each other . The water will keep misting into the intercooler all the time that the boost pressure is at the preset setting and as the different inlet valves open and close a constant temp will enter each cylinder . A T2 engine will not run as much boost for as long as a gt turbo because of the problems of charge temp and extra fuel control needed , the gt turbo liners will still crack at high boost levels the same as T2 ones will . The fact is that with correct fueling at the higher boost levels and the lower charge temps a gt turbo engine will survive for that bit longer . Put a gt turbo engine in the T2 position with its intercooler etc and it too will blow up that much faster !!!

[stephendell]

Will we see either of the Steves at Donington.

Would be good to see the T2 and GTA on show

. After this you need steel liners and forged pistons for engine saftey reasons as the standard liners start cracking etc .

Maybe...things have progressed quite far now, and its all about setup, and even though a carb is basic compared to efi, they can get a 'safer' setup by excess fuel dumping. The fastest GT turbo is running nearly 40psi on standard liners and the bottom end is the same as the T2.

Will we see either of the Steves at Donington.

Would be good to see the T2 and GTA on show

Would really have liked to be there, but i dearnt say yes for deffo with work

You're not sounding too good, best to take a recover day off work. You will be a lot fresher for next week then. The F1 collection at Donnington is not to be missed, and not just F1 stuff either, all sorts, varied and interesting.

. After this you need steel liners and forged pistons for engine saftey reasons as the standard liners start cracking etc .

Maybe...things have progressed quite far now, and its all about setup, and even though a carb is basic compared to efi, they can get a 'safer' setup by excess fuel dumping. The fastest GT turbo is running nearly 40psi on standard liners and the bottom end is the same as the T2.

Apart from the head is everything the same? its really strange this 15 psi life or death thing and its younger brother(GTT) is fine(ish)