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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:39 am

Stunned Monkey wrote:Oh, BTW your ignition curve will be wrong for the 3 litre engine because that's lower compresison of course (note to self!)


The ignition curve won't be 'wrong' with lowering compression, piston events still happen at the same place, its because the stroke is longer on the 3.0. :)

Petes ignition curve wasn't finalised on that map anyway, as he found out yesterday. :wink:
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Postby peterg » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Well, it was f!*king quick....in fact it was pretty awesome, for about 10 minutes then the smoke started :cry: Blown turbo!!! The turbo I had only copes with about 260bhp and I reckon Ive probably exceeded it (209 at the wheels plus at least 50 transmission loss.....on the road with the CC working it may have another 10) that and the hard use its had at events. So I'm getting a bigger turbo now :D But I'm missing 3 Sisters on Sunday :cry:
David will hopefully beable to post the map from the RR that showed 360lbs and 258bhp (the guy has added 20% for transmission loss because his RR doesnt measure it)
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Postby clee » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:56 pm

Pisser :evil: :cry: :cry:
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Postby darrenbiggs » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:59 pm

Yeah but it sounds cool......

'....and then I blew the turbo'

as opposed to

'....and then the headlining fell down'
or
'....and then the speedo stopped working'
or
'.....and then it came off in my hand'

Best GTA failure recorded on the site so far 8)
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:21 pm

Ill make a rod come though a side of a block if that will make you happy.. :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:27 pm

peterg wrote:David will hopefully beable to post the map from the RR that showed 360lbs and 258bhp (the guy has added 20% for transmission loss because his RR doesnt measure it)


Well, you going to have 50bhp losses minimum, up to about 65 thereabouts... So ball park of around 260-275 on the rollers, a little more actually 'on the road'.

The next turbo's going to have the RS500 compressor option so it will be in max efficiency and lower the charge temps more.
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Postby clee » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:19 pm

David Gentleman wrote:
peterg wrote:David will hopefully beable to post the map from the RR that showed 360lbs and 258bhp (the guy has added 20% for transmission loss because his RR doesnt measure it)


Well, you going to have 50bhp losses minimum, up to about 65 thereabouts... So ball park of around 260-275 on the rollers, a little more actually 'on the road'.

The next turbo's going to have the RS500 compressor option so it will be in max efficiency and lower the charge temps more.


And not blow up :?: :?: :roll:
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Postby peterg » Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:43 pm

Here's hoping!!!!

Darren....just to rub salt in the wound, the headlining also fell down on the way back, and no the speedo wasnt working full time today either!!!!! (showed just over 100mph and then gave up.....oooooh that was on a track obviously and not the public road...ahem :wink: )
Thakfully nothing came off in my hand.....but I wont get a refund for 3 Sisters apparently and I have managed to spill a cup of coffee over myself tonight and burn the pork on the BBQ.....must be one of those days :evil:
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:59 pm

Hey, it could be worse - the TT DeLorean arrived on the back of a tow truck late last night..... and the problem? Blown coil. Absolutely sod all to do with the new engine. Grrrrr. Tony's is ready for the rolling road now, the colder weather has allowed me to set up at least some of the warmup curves.
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Postby simontaylor » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:17 pm

peterg wrote:Well, it was f!*king quick....in fact it was pretty awesome, for about 10 minutes then the smoke started :cry: Blown turbo!!! The turbo I had only copes with about 260bhp and I reckon Ive probably exceeded it (209 at the wheels plus at least 50 transmission loss.....on the road with the CC working it may have another 10) that and the hard use its had at events. So I'm getting a bigger turbo now :D But I'm missing 3 Sisters on Sunday :cry:
David will hopefully beable to post the map from the RR that showed 360lbs and 258bhp (the guy has added 20% for transmission loss because his RR doesnt measure it)


Seems just like bad luck to me. I ran mine for 30-40 minutes on boost (10psi) at 5500-6100 revs in the cold morning air last year. Turbo (original one) was fine but no cluth pedal at all on arrival, extensive & excessive heat must have boiled it.
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Postby peterg » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:47 pm

Good news....I have borrowed my neighbours 205 GTI for 3 Sisters, not gonna be robbed of my championship again!!!! :D Not sure that its only the turbo though....have a suspicion its also head gasket thats gone :evil:
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Postby clee » Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:58 pm

Too many booosstt :shock:
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Postby peterg » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:14 pm

Ive never run more than 1.1bar.....I think the correct terminology is 'shit happens'!
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:14 pm

clee wrote:Too many booosstt :shock:


This was still at 1 bar. :wink:
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:16 pm

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