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Postby David Gentleman » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:32 pm

peterg wrote:But you'd have the proof forever....and we'd know if you had more than the magic 300bhp too!


Oh, he could have more than 300 Pete, he could easily have 500, just not at 11psi...
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Postby foggylad69 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:13 am

Well I have to say that first driving impressions of my atmo are a little disapointing..engine wise. and the fuel consumption is bad to say the least..ok the design is dated for the chassis..its begging for 250-300 bhp.
So a later engine I would say is a must have...then theres always the option of another make engine such as the ford cozie v6 which is just an awsome power plant and so cheap to buy and tune..300bhp + for under a grand easy. i could be easily tempted to make it into a REAL supercar and fit a nice american v8.
Is there a list of engine swaps that people have done anywhere on here ?
As you can tell..Im not a purist, my cars for My pleasure.
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Postby David Gentleman » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:48 am

foggylad69 wrote:Well I have to say that first driving impressions of my atmo are a little disapointing..engine wise. and the fuel consumption is bad to say the least..ok the design is dated for the chassis..its begging for 250-300 bhp.
So a later engine I would say is a must have...then theres always the option of another make engine such as the ford cozie v6 which is just an awsome power plant and so cheap to buy and tune..300bhp + for under a grand easy. i could be easily tempted to make it into a REAL supercar and fit a nice american v8.
Is there a list of engine swaps that people have done anywhere on here ?
As you can tell..Im not a purist, my cars for My pleasure.


How do you know the car is running how it should?? It sounds like you need to get the car looked at as you shouldnt find it dissapointing or that bad on fuel..You find on the road the atmo can keep with a Turbo GTA, and sometimes, get the jump on it from low revs...

As for the Cosworth V6, it will make around 240bhp with modifications( exhaust, remap etc..), as with the PRV 24v V6, but it certainly won't make 300bhp without extensive work, as in new inlet and exhaust manifolds, full throttle body setup, new management, cams, pistons - thus certainly not for a grand.. Its also a cast iron block (much with the Yank engines) which is far heavier than the PRV V6..and the main factor is there is not a bellhousing adaptor for it..

Engine swap wise, the only ones that are feasible at the moment (as gearbox bellhousing adaptors have already been made in the past) are Cosworth 4cyl Turbo, Renault 4cyl Turbo, Safrane/Laguna/Pug605 V6, Lexus 4.0 V8, Rover V8, Ford/Chevy V8..
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Postby JohnLane » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:26 pm

David Gentleman wrote:Ive got a terrible memory though...best off with evidence instead... :roll: :lol:


Perhaps Mr Gentleman has not had a memorable enough ride in a car yet.....
We can fix that. 8)
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Postby David Gentleman » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:54 pm

JohnLane wrote:
David Gentleman wrote:Ive got a terrible memory though...best off with evidence instead... :roll: :lol:


Perhaps Mr Gentleman has not had a memorable enough ride in a car yet.....
We can fix that. 8)


Why, who's car have you got in mind? :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:05 pm

John, in the UK, we don't talk about how fast or powerful one thinks their car is without backing it up.

If you can prove your car at 11psi is more powerful than 300bhp/300lb/ft, then spread the word...

This is a country with an abundance of 400-600bhp turbo vehicles, with tried and tested methods, dyno plots, and quartermile times and terminal speeds. So, no matter how much power one says ones car has, you can't cheat physics..

So when somebody comes along with quoted figures that are way out of the ordinary, on a basically standard engine, but with no data to back it up, not many people take notice..thats kids stuff, from about 10 years ago...

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Postby andyh877 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:55 pm

Yarn yarn yarn........

get it on an autobahn video it....then we'll see...... and......

when was the last time an american car won le mans...... the hardest endurance race in the world :!:
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Postby simontaylor » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:50 pm

andyh877 wrote:when was the last time an american car won le mans...... the hardest endurance race in the world :!:


probably before you were born.
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Postby peterg » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:55 pm

In the GT class the Yanks were quite dominant in the late 90s and early 00s with Viper and Corvette and are sttill big league contenders (I dont have this years results but I believ Aston won it for a change) ....does that count???? Only factory backed teams have won the overall race in recent memory and as far as I can remember no US factory backed teams have entered one of the potentially overall race winning classes.

As for the Autobahn test...he has a Volvo shaped like an un-aerodynamic brick....its not gonna set the world alight on the top speed test I dont think!!!!! :D
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Postby Alpineandy » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:19 pm

peterg wrote:I believ Aston won it for a change


I think it bust in the last hour and Oliver Gavin won in the corvette cr6..... :lol:
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Postby Alpineandy » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:24 pm

Mr Lane, A dyno sheet is the only way to make people believe.
We've seen kids with R5 GTT swearing that they can run more boost than race car for hours upon end and they're laughted at until they can prove it (which most can't). I (I think i can say we!) are sure your car goes well but the figures don't add up... :!:
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Postby andyh877 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:28 pm

won Le Mans means...... the guy past the finish line first...... not class .....

and to continue....... Aston DBR 9........ British built by prodrive.

and the last American car to win it I think was a cobra....... and it wasn't all american........ just the engine and Carroll Shelby were...... the rest was British :!:
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Postby clee » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:54 pm

http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/lemans.html

78 8)


If no dyno is available then WTF are we talking about :lol: How else are these figures gathered :?:
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Postby andyh877 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:04 pm

clee wrote:If no dyno is available then WTF are we talking about :lol: How else are these figures gathered .


say no more :!:
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Postby simontaylor » Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:36 pm

clee wrote:http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/lemans.html

78 8)


WOW, 1st, 4th, another one did 279 laps and seemed to be the last car to drop out, plus an A310 listed as REServe.

Were they all running the V6 PRV block?
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