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Postby David Gentleman » Thu May 11, 2006 3:07 pm

Yes, sleeve type are shonky crap, but a cheap 'conversion' :lol:
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Postby andyh877 » Thu May 11, 2006 3:53 pm

wise words Mr C,

most people just bolt em on to slam em and bling it up innit :lol:

big rims and a slammed mota don't make a race car...... but a lot of people out there fink it does init mate :lol: :lol:

Bling it on :!:
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Postby clee » Thu May 11, 2006 4:07 pm

I don't see the point in putting coilovers on a road car :P Sorry Dave :mrgreen:
Unless you're the sort of person that will set them up for all journeys .

M25 SETTING :D Tesco Setting :lol: :lol: Speed bump .......Sunday twisty countryside ,ohh feck :!: Stuck behind Mr Tucker the silly old F###er overtaking setting ........................................

You will spend more time adjusting the buggers than driving the car :roll:

Peter ,do you change the settings or set and forget once it feels good :?:
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Postby gt5 » Thu May 11, 2006 4:30 pm

i think my dad may be investing in a set of scales as 3 of the cars here have coilovers just got to keep nagging him :lol:
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Postby peterg » Thu May 11, 2006 4:39 pm

Lee, I do fiddle with the set up now and again, but if its a dry event the set up I have at the minute is pretty much spot on......I tend to change tyre pressures more than the shock settings.
Its easy for the author of that article to talk about scales (and if youve got a single seater bathroom scales work nicely......thats how I used to set up my bike engined FF!!! :D ) but a decent set of automotive scales are the best part of £1000 and up!
Andy...never have you spoken truer words.....I would love to see just how badly some of the Saxos you see with 18" wheels and rock hard suspension actually drive!
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Postby clee » Thu May 11, 2006 4:49 pm

I could have a word with my old man about buying his own scales ,Department of Transport are always putting his 7 1/2 tonners on them :lol: :lol:
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Postby andyh877 » Thu May 11, 2006 5:24 pm

AYYYYYYY :!:

i as got nice xpensive penske shokas on me spida 3 way adjustable init 8)

bling it on :!:

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dem blingas is gettin a stiffy now :lol:
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu May 11, 2006 5:49 pm

clee wrote:I don't see the point in putting coilovers on a road car :P Sorry Dave :mrgreen:
Unless you're the sort of person that will set them up for all journeys .

M25 SETTING :D Tesco Setting :lol: :lol: Speed bump .......Sunday twisty countryside ,ohh feck :!: Stuck behind Mr Tucker the silly old F###er overtaking setting ........................................

You will spend more time adjusting the buggers than driving the car :roll:

Peter ,do you change the settings or set and forget once it feels good :?:


Lee, that doesnt make sense. Whats the difference between a coil over kit and a normal adjustable damper kit, other than you can adjust the height to exactly where you want it, other than relying on the fixed height of the springs that you can do nothing about it?

You set them up to a good all round setting and leave them like that!

Only if your going to do a track day, or offroading may you change the settings/ride height..
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Postby David Gentleman » Thu May 11, 2006 5:58 pm

andyh877 wrote:AYYYYYYY :!:

i as got nice xpensive penske shokas on me spida 3 way adjustable init 8)

bling it on :!:

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dem blingas is gettin a stiffy now :lol:


Andy, you are thee king of the bling! :mrgreen:
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Postby andyh877 » Thu May 11, 2006 6:34 pm

Sorry to dissapoint you mate but they aint no blingin addon..... them is standard equip on race spidas 8)

but it is slammmed to de max init :lol:

bling it on :!:
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Postby clee » Thu May 11, 2006 7:27 pm

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clee wrote:I don't see the point in putting coilovers on a road car :P Sorry Dave :mrgreen:
Unless you're the sort of person that will set them up for all journeys .

M25 SETTING :D Tesco Setting :lol: :lol: Speed bump .......Sunday twisty countryside ,ohh feck :!: Stuck behind Mr Tucker the silly old F###er overtaking setting ........................................

You will spend more time adjusting the buggers than driving the car :roll:

Peter ,do you change the settings or set and forget once it feels good :?:


Lee, that doesnt make sense. Whats the difference between a coil over kit and a normal adjustable damper kit, other than you can adjust the height to exactly where you want it, other than relying on the fixed height of the springs that you can do nothing about it?

You set them up to a good all round setting and leave them like that!

Only if your going to do a track day, or offroading may you change the settings/ride height..


It does make sense .You are never going to push a road car to the point where a finite adjustment on one quarter is going to make eff-all difference and who here would really know the why's and wherefores to make an adjustment ,I couldn't get the graphic equaliser set properly :lol:
You are kidding yourself if you think you're an ace suspension guru when all you can do is twist a big spanner and get all the heights the same .it's a tad more complicated than that .
Get a set of coilovers if you like ,but please don't try and tell me your suspension is any better set up than a set of adjustables with uprated springs or for that matter the std factory units :wink:


PS .I wouldn't advise offroading in a GTA .Grippppped :!:
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Postby peterg » Thu May 11, 2006 7:37 pm

Lee....youve missed the point, having the height adjustment is quite important, and you wont have it on the standard or stiffness adjustable only shocks. I have the rear of my car set slightly higher than the front to help keep the handling neutral, I also have the drivers side front corner a couple of mms higher than the passenger side to accomodate my great bulk getting in!!! Admittedly its not going to be worth loads of seconds on any given lap, but it is useful to have and lots of little things eventually add up to big things!! :D
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Postby clee » Thu May 11, 2006 7:57 pm

peterg wrote:Lee....youve missed the point, having the height adjustment is quite important, and you wont have it on the standard or stiffness adjustable only shocks. I have the rear of my car set slightly higher than the front to help keep the handling neutral, I also have the drivers side front corner a couple of mms higher than the passenger side to accomodate my great bulk getting in!!! Admittedly its not going to be worth loads of seconds on any given lap, but it is useful to have and lots of little things eventually add up to big things!! :D



I haven't missed the point ,you're not the average GTA driver. I said ,I don't see the point of it for normal road use .I defy most on here to know when the car is well set-up, fully balanced and ready to take on the best the land o-the-rising sun has to offer .
It's a dick-thing ,fully adjustable, coil over ,anodised ,fine pitch thread , asp ......................I haven't got a clue how to set it properly .
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Postby clee » Thu May 11, 2006 8:05 pm

andyh877 wrote:Sorry to dissapoint you mate but they aint no blingin addon..... them is standard equip on race spidas 8)

but it is slammmed to de max init :lol:

bling it on :!:


Dey is a bit bling tho guy .............
anodiszed fitins ,braideded oses .
Standard Blingin ..........

Gosh :!: One really should stop typing like this .
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Postby peterg » Thu May 11, 2006 8:06 pm

It's a dick-thing ,fully adjustable, coil over ,anodised ,fine pitch thread , asp ......................I haven't got a clue how to set it properly .
:?:

I dont profess to be an expert, but driving the car hard soon tells you wether youve got under or oversteer and having as much adjustment as can be had gives more possibilities to alter the handling of the car. If I jacked the front of my car up by several inches I'm sure it would understeer....opposite affect if I did the rear. I agree that if youre just going to drive your car about to the shops, work and on the odd drive at weekends then there is no real advantage of coilovers. I dont think Anyone would disagree with that.

P.S. youre sounding very angry tonight Lee!
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