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Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am
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clee wrote:The Dastek can control additional injectors .................now isn't that fueling
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:35 pm
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David Gentleman wrote:gt5 wrote:OK, One more reply , just to chew over
Also, you have to remember, there is no useful mapping after 14.7psi, as the GTA mapsensor is a 2 bar absolute sensor. If the RR map your car for 20psi, it will fuel exactly the same at 14psi, so if you run a boost pressure lower than 20, it will overfuel massively...
This is why the Unichip reads from its own 2.5bar absolute (22psi boost) pressure sensor, so that the Unichip can read beyond the original design of the std car. We could use a 3.5bar (36psi) absolute version if required.
Steve, it doesnt matter if the unichip has its own sensor and can read 100psi -
HOW CAN IT PUT EXTRA FUEL IN TO COMPENSATE FOR THE EXTRA BOOST WHEN IT DOESNT CONTROL THE FUELING!?
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am
Colchester, Essex
clee wrote:The Dastek can control additional injectors .................now isn't that fueling
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:35 pm
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David Gentleman wrote:Best thing to do Steve, is ignore the schpiel on the website, as most of it applies to other cars and not the GTA.
Download their installer and setup and manual and the wiring diagram, and then you'll get the gist of what is actually possible.
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:35 pm
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am
Colchester, Essex
gt5 wrote:David Gentleman wrote:Best thing to do Steve, is ignore the schpiel on the website, as most of it applies to other cars and not the GTA.
Download their installer and setup and manual and the wiring diagram, and then you'll get the gist of what is actually possible.
Dave, This isnt schpiel (what does that mean ) off there site, this is questions put forward to them in relalation to the negative comments on the forum
Has i said, I would think that the ECU when its available will be the better alternative but the Dastek does seem a good cheaper alternative for most who are not contemplating a full re-build with loads of upgrades to the engine internals and monster mods. Like i mentioned i have pages of replys from Dastek & in fairness they have come up with all the right answers.
The original price i was quoted from noble for the Dastek inc Fitting and mapping was £600, It did work out at less then this though
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am
Colchester, Essex
gt5 wrote:
Dastek; The thing is that the map sensor is voltage is only close to zero when at complete vacuum, which doesn’t even happen at high speed closed throttle on the over run! So on tick over, the voltage from the map sensor is not zero but probably about 1.1Volts, the Unichip can then make this lower to further reduce the quantity of fuel injected.
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:10 am
Colchester, Essex
clee wrote:How much will the Adap be all in ,with the extra bits ,fitted and mapped
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Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:35 pm
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David Gentleman wrote:gt5 wrote:David Gentleman wrote:Best thing to do Steve, is ignore the schpiel on the website, as most of it applies to other cars and not the GTA.
Download their installer and setup and manual and the wiring diagram, and then you'll get the gist of what is actually possible.
Dave, This isnt schpiel (what does that mean ) off there site, this is questions put forward to them in relalation to the negative comments on the forum
Has i said, I would think that the ECU when its available will be the better alternative but the Dastek does seem a good cheaper alternative for most who are not contemplating a full re-build with loads of upgrades to the engine internals and monster mods. Like i mentioned i have pages of replys from Dastek & in fairness they have come up with all the right answers.
The original price i was quoted from noble for the Dastek inc Fitting and mapping was £600, It did work out at less then this though
When I mean shpiel I mean, they are standard reponses they get from most people and direclty regarding a GTA. For instance, most turbo cars, eg, a MR2 turbo, may be running 450cc injectors, and wish to upgrade to 550cc - now adjusting the map isnt much of a problem, its only around a 20% gain, but go and tell them your GTA is running 185cc injectors and needs to be running 450cc, and see if the Dastek (combined with the original ecu hardware) can cope with nearly 150% increase in injector size...
And as for the Dastek being good for people not having a load of mods, ?, well there is no need for any ecu upgrade if your going to keep the engine near standard. The standard ecu can cope with upto 14psi on its own..
The GTA, to make real power needs boost, and that needs to be combined with a good turbo, chargecoooling, exhaust, fueling and management to run it.
High boost (regardless of engine spec) is a serious issue, and you don't want to be messing with extra injectors, or band aiding ancient Renault technology which was only originally specced for 200bhp..
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