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Update for those interested!

Postby Gentle Ben » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:14 pm

Hi guys.

An update here for you regarding my intended 3.0 V6 Renault 19.

Well I am still all for giving this a go. Last week I bought myself a J-reg Renault Clio 16v for £480 in Glasgow. It required a few bits and bobs and an MOT, but with 83K and FRSH up to 73K it was a bargain. As I write this my good friend, who is babysitting the car and fixing it up for me has fitted most of the bits it needs and I collect it from him on the August Bank Holiday.

It's got a K&N air filter and a full exhaust system meaning power is somewhere around the 140bhp-mark.

The Clio will become my daily driver for a while, meaning I can take the 19 off the road and get cracking on the conversion. The first order of business will be to knock up a cardboard replica of the engine (as suggested to me by someone on here if memory serves) and to see what clearance issues are going to arise.

As the 19 will be off the road anyway I can take the time to think and do things properly. If there aren't going to be many major issues with the conversion then I'll be going ahead with it. I'm currently moving back in with my parents for a year or so having just finished University so I'll have plenty of time to spend on it.

As regards tuning, well I've set myself a target of 200bhp. A brief scout on the internet has shown that there aren't many off the shelf bits for the Z7X-767 engine apart from air filters/induction kits and the like, so my interim plans include a good quality induction kit and a port and polish of the head and inlet manifold (as much of it as possible). The engine doesn't appear to come with an ECU so I'm hoping that somewhere like Emerald will be able to sort the management out and with a decent power hike as well.

I'll also be needing an exhaust from the downpipe back. As it'll be in a 19 it will need to be custom-made so a good quality job should make for a nice power gain. I'm hoping that having the induction/exhaust, polished head and Emerald management will help to hit 200bhp, but if anyone knows of any specialist places where bits/services can be purchased then I'd be very grateful!

Hope everyone's OK.

Ben
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Postby David Gentleman » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:40 am

If you get some decent twin 3-1 manifolds and a twin system all the way back, cams (don't worry too much about the porting/polishing, as the cams are far more important) raise the compression and the management and you should be looking around 200bhp...


....once its fitted :wink:
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Re: Update for those interested!

Postby Alpineandy » Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:46 pm

Gentle Ben wrote:As regards tuning, well I've set myself a target of 200bhp


May I suggest you build it before worrying about extra power.
You may find it's an undrivable pig with the standard power.
Or it could be excellent and crying out for the extra grunt, but you'll have to build it to find out.
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Postby peterg » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:13 pm

I'm betting on the pig! A standard 19 16v is a bit of a handful on the torque steer front (a friend used to have the attractively named but pig ugly Chamade version!).....imagine one with a lot more torque and a great lump of a PRV in the front. :shock:
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Postby Gentle Ben » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:56 pm

Well I thought this myself but it's been pointed out to me that several V6 conversions into Nova's and Mini's have been done without adverse handling characteristics so I'll reserve judgement until it's done....if ever that is!
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Postby peterg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:24 am

The V6s fitted are probably a lot lighter than the old PRV and the Nova never handled well in the first place! :lol: Ive never actually come across a mini with a front mounted V6....Ive seen a Vauxhall 16v shoehorned in and that involved stretching all sorts of bits at the front of the car......are you sure the V6 wasnt mid or rear mounted...Ive seen a V8 fitted in that way.
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Postby mitchella » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:04 pm

I once saw an article describing how a mini had been fitted with a Ford V6 from a Capri. It was mounted in-line and drove the back wheels via a very short propshaft. The guy had fitted the entire transmission tunnel from the Capri into the mini floor - much angle grinding and a few miles of weld I guess.
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Postby peterg » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:24 pm

What you have there is a mini shaped Capri!!!! Not much minin and a lot of Capri :D Not quite what Bens thinking of doing.
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Postby simonsays74 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:01 pm

ben, i think that you will get a reward/medal if you complete this conversion.

go for it!
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Postby rupert » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:43 pm

... and who is going to ruin my pet plan (for today) of putting a GTA atmo engine and box into a VW camper.....
Okay the radiator might be a problem.... :?
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Postby simonsays74 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:57 pm

.... what age/type of camper? most T25 campers are water cooled.
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Postby rupert » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:00 pm

ideally an old splitty....
Or an early bay window.


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