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A610 acceleration issue

Postby patfitz » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:12 pm

Hi guys, while I am on a roll , I need your advise on this issue
My A610 drives absolutely superbly , but there is a intermittant flat spot at about 2000 to 2500 rpm and 3000 to 3500 rpm where in 5th gear or even sometimes in fourth, under acceleration it really labours
If pulling from a standstill, it will accelerate through all the gears without a problem , but while driving say on a motorway at 70 ish and then flooring it , it will hesitate until it clears those rev bands, unless I change down and give it higher revs
If I am driving faster say 100mph - 120mph, it will accelerate further without a problem in fifth
Any advise will be most welcome,
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Re: A610 acceleration issue

Postby MFaulks » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:07 pm

there is a intermittent flat spot at about 2000 to 2500 rpm and 3000 to 3500 rpm where in 5th gear or even sometimes in fourth, under acceleration it really labours
If pulling from a standstill, it will accelerate through all the gears without a problem


So does that equate to a flat spot between 2000 and 3500 rpm? Or you mean there are two adjacent flat spots?

Around 2500 rpm is the transition from n/a to forced feed, so fuelling is important. When you hammer her down and she picks up cleanly, that is because you will be getting the additional fuelling added for rapid accel calculated by the ecu based on MAP pressure and engine temp (accelerator pump on a carb analogy), and so will fill in the gap in fuelling. When you gently accelerate the ecu does not add any additional fuel than that demanded from the MAP sensor - so you will see a lag.

What boost are you seeing on your turbo at these times?

Can you check your fuel line pressure (is the reg ok, and fuel filter good)?

Have the injectors in your car ever been serviced?

Air inlet temp, MAP sensor and water temp sensors are important for the correct fuel calc in the ecu. These can easily be check as per the manual.

I may have gone off on a tangent, but would really need a little more info.
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Postby patfitz » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:30 pm

I appreciate the tangent very much and will check all these and come back to you asap, but to answer your first question , yes it is 2 flat spots as opposed to 1 continuous one
It will take me a day or so to come back to you
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Postby stephendell » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:20 pm

There is also an AMAL valve that controls the boost on an A610. This could be faulty.
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Postby Stunned Monkey » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:50 pm

That wouldn't cause a flat spot, just less power.
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