Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby andyh877 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:54 pm

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clee wrote:I don't think a three would fit in the wheelarch ...... I have just got this ,should do the job .
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Nice one Lee ... :D :D :D .... Where did you get the pic from ?
Just one small detail though .... 1 "MICRO FARADS" is a millionth of 1 "FARAD", so please don't try to fit that one ..... it will most probably drain the battery just trying to charge it up. :( ..... and take a long time too.
I have never seen a 1 or, in this case, a 1.5 Farad Capicator before ..... I knew they would be big, but .......................... I like it. :Cheer

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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby Miles » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:20 am

Haha,
Lee it's german they like to over engineer everything.
I'm sure it will be fine with then big dam tunes. Although me thinks you need to instal it in series with the exhaust! Being the loudest and only note Jill will be making..


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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby MFaulks » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:34 am

clee wrote:aiii seen seen ,de is some big mofos ,I don't think a three would fit in the wheelarch .
I have just got this ,should do the job . will be well fierce when me banging me tunes :super
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Yeah, that will do the job, LOL :-) ... house mate and lift provider back in my days at Uni (so a good few years ago), had a setup that he couldn't start the car with the radio switched on... be nothing now to todays loud boy systems, but was a good laugh back then even :-) ... takes me back...
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby MFaulks » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:59 pm

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FYI the value of the noise suppressor on each of the rad fans is 0.456 micro farads from measurement.

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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby Hedley » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:47 pm

Jon, are you running yours without a suppresser now or did you find a replacement? I've got the same issue following a pump change. I've read that the suppressor is also there to stop electrical arcing that limits pump life. It might be costly to leave it off. Has anyone removed this and had no problem for some years?
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby Miles » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:36 pm

I have run mine for years without one.
Doesn't seem to be an issue.

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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby Hedley » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:47 am

Just checked and it looks like the Bosch 044 has built in noise suppression. Happy days.
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby jon_viola » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:53 am

Thats what I'm running and without a suppressor. I would say that the radio is worse than before but I use the radio app on my phone and run it that way so no problems....
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby MFaulks » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:28 pm

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Personally, if there is a Renix / Fenix ecu inside, I would fit and run some noise suppression at the pump.

Funny little note, I think it was either a govt facility or an airport used to run a fleet of Renault Espace's around the facilty as site vehicles. Anyway, they were having odd signal interferrence issues that couldn't be explained until they stuck one of the Espace's in an EMC chamber and it was bleeding rf noise like the proverbial... I think they were quickly junked off... LOL....
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby JohnC » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:19 am

JohnC wrote:The chances are that you will hear no interference from the fuel pumps on tape or FM, however, if you are getting it on MW and LW, then it might be worth trying a One microfarad (1mf) suppressor of the type that are fitted to the alternator .... ie:- "P clip" type.............. The biggest problem is fitting and finding a good earth connection for the body of the suppressor. I don't know if the clip holding the pump is bolted a chassis member, if so, problem solved as long as you make sure the contact area of the suppressor and the chassis are both clean metal, once fitted paint, to stop any rust from forming.
The wire that comes out of the suppressor is then fitted together with the 12v supply to the pump. (Yellow lead with Red dash tracer)

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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby jon_viola » Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:05 pm

Thanks for that. Ive got one ordered and will report....
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby JohnC » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:30 am

Just a quick note on this suppressor subject. I decided to check the fuel pump suppressor on my Alp, and also check and clean the connectors only to find that on my 1990 Alp, NO SUPPRESSOR IS FITTED. :o :o :o .................. and as such, no connectors to worry about. :up
As I do not get any interference on my radio, it appears that there is no need for them. :Cheer
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby turbodog » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:26 am

THE suppressor is fitted on the rear fuel pump on turbo cars only hence no suppressor on your car John
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby JohnC » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:10 pm

turbodog wrote:The suppressor is fitted on the rear fuel pump on turbo cars only hence no suppressor on your car John

Thanks Andrew ..... I stand corrected then.
I had rather assumed that both fuel pumps were suppressed on the turbo, but we learn a bit more about these cars all the time. :up
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Re: Rear Fuel Pump Noise Suppressor

Postby MFaulks » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:23 am

... nor do you have John, a Renix 1 ecu with no line or input signal filtering (later revised in subsequent designs) trying to determine jitter, knock level and concordance with tdc amongst a pea soup of electrical noise... context I have mentioned several times. :up
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