Fuel Gauge Wiring Query

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Postby BIG_MVS » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:00 pm

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Postby JohnC » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:05 pm

pgoldsmith wrote:So does it matter if the spring falls off? I suppose it just lies there but is there any danger of it fouling the outlet of the fuel tank ?

Paul, now having seen the parts list and what the spring is doing, I would refit it in its original position as it will stop it possibly moving from side to side as the fuel sloshes around the tank. I have not actually seen it, but it looks as if it can be push fitted over the protrusion in the end cap in such a way that it is held there while you replace the sensor into the tank.... if it keeps falling off, from what I can see, you could possibly tighten the circle of the narrower part of the spring to "clip" onto the end cap.
With regard to it fouling the outlet of the tank.... it does look, from the parts list, a bit too big to really cause a problem.
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Postby si21 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:11 am

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blueg33 wrote:Update. 18.7 gals reading gone after reset, went back to 9.7 galls and is going down as I drive. I will see what happens


Sounds good Nick 8)

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Postby pgoldsmith » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:54 am

Thank John.
When I reinstalled it I aimed the end of the sensor onto the spring - thinking it probably had something to do with locating it on the tank. So at the moment its sandwich between tank and sensor. Bit loathed to take it apart and try to recover said spring - for one I dont have a long pair of grabbers to retrieve it :roll:
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Postby JohnC » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:34 am

pgoldsmith wrote: Bit loathed to take it apart and try to recover said spring - for one I don't have a long pair of grabbers to retrieve it :roll:

That's why I always carry a straightened out wire coat hanger in the car for events such as these.... (bend a quick hook.) 8) ..... its amazing what you can do with them. :wink:
The other thing I carry is... what looks like a portable radio telescopic aerial but with a magnet in the end...... mind you if the spring is stainless steel, it won`t pick up..... then I resort to the coat hanger. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby blueg33 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:06 am

JohnC wrote:
pgoldsmith wrote: Bit loathed to take it apart and try to recover said spring - for one I don't have a long pair of grabbers to retrieve it :roll:

That's why I always carry a straightened out wire coat hanger in the car for events such as these.... (bend a quick hook.) 8) ..... its amazing what you can do with them. :wink:
The other thing I carry is... what looks like a portable radio telescopic aerial but with a magnet in the end...... mind you if the spring is stainless steel, it won`t pick up..... then I resort to the coat hanger. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I also have both of those tools. Coat hanger is most useful!

(oh and the relay appears to be ok)
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Postby jon_viola » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:31 am

Whilst we're on the subject- anykne got the wiring diagram for the earlier type of system without the black box?

Will need to check the continuity on mine at some point.

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Postby JohnC » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:13 pm

jon_viola wrote:.....anyone got the wiring diagram for the earlier type of system without the black box?

Here you go Jon. :wink:

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As you can see from the high lighted part of the cct, it is very simple compared to the later types, from what I have read on this forum about these, there is a spiral wire coming from the top of the sensor to the float which has a habit of snapping off at one end or the other, if this is the case, suggest sliding, say, 1 inch of heat shrink down the wire before soldering, having soldered, slide the heat shrink up over the joint and cable, apply heat gun or similar. This should strengthen the joint and make it less flexible so, hopefully, reducing the risk of it happening too often. I have not done this myself on an early sensor, but have used the same principal before.... and it has worked. :wink:

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Postby jon_viola » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:37 pm

Thanks for that.

I know it's not the sensor as this is new so need to follow the loom into the car and check from there...
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Postby JohnC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:53 pm

JohnC wrote:Nick has now repositioned them to the other end of the connector and it appears.... fingers crossed... that it is now working ....

Err..... can I uncross my fingers yet? and what happens when you put fuel in the tank..... for instance, put in 10 litres, and the gauge should have gone up just over 2 gals. :wink:
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